{"id":168826,"date":"2025-10-21T03:56:01","date_gmt":"2025-10-21T03:56:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quixnet.net\/wpinstance\/ukraine-war-latest-trump-thinks-kyiv-wont-win-and-demands-zelensky-cede-land-the-independent\/"},"modified":"2025-10-21T03:56:01","modified_gmt":"2025-10-21T03:56:01","slug":"ukraine-war-latest-trump-thinks-kyiv-wont-win-and-demands-zelensky-cede-land-the-independent","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quixnet.net\/wpinstance\/ukraine-war-latest-trump-thinks-kyiv-wont-win-and-demands-zelensky-cede-land-the-independent\/","title":{"rendered":"Ukraine war latest: Trump \u2018thinks Kyiv won\u2019t win\u2019 and demands Zelensky cede land &#8211; The Independent"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Notifications can be managed in browser preferences.<br \/><span class=\"sc-1ty8yds-0 bbjlNt\">Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged in<\/span><span class=\"sc-1ty8yds-1 SkKtY\">Please refresh your browser to be logged in<\/span><br \/>Swipe for next article <br \/>Donald Trump expects Ukraine to surrender territory in any peace agreement <br \/>From reproductive rights to climate change to Big Tech, The Independent is on the ground when the story is developing. Whether it&#8217;s investigating the financials of Elon Musk&#8217;s pro-Trump PAC or producing our latest documentary, &#8216;The A Word&#8217;, which shines a light on the American women fighting for reproductive rights, we know how important it is to parse out the facts from the messaging.<br \/>At such a critical moment in US history, we need reporters on the ground. Your donation allows us to keep sending journalists to speak to both sides of the story.<br \/>The Independent is trusted by Americans across the entire political spectrum. And unlike many other quality news outlets, we choose not to lock Americans out of our reporting and analysis with paywalls. We believe quality journalism should be available to everyone, paid for by those who can afford it.<br \/><a href=\"\/topic\/donald-trump\">Donald Trump<\/a> has said he doesn\u2019t think <a href=\"\/topic\/ukraine\">Ukraine<\/a> will win the war against <a href=\"\/topic\/russia\">Russia,<\/a> just hours after it emerged that the <a href=\"\/news\/world\/americas\/us-politics\/trump-terms-limits-truth-social-meme-b2848350.html\">US president<\/a> had demanded that <a href=\"\/topic\/ukraine\">Ukraine <\/a>cede land to end the war.<br \/>&#8220;They could still win it, I don&#8217;t think they will,\u201d the US president said during a meeting with Australian prime minister Anthony Albanese. <br \/>\u201cBut they could still win it. I never said they would win it. I said they could win anything can happen,\u201d he added.<br \/>US secretary of state <a href=\"\/topic\/marco-rubio\">Marco Rubio<\/a> will hold a phone call with his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov, deputy foreign minister Sergei Ryabkov said according to Russian state news agency RIA.<br \/>It comes ahead of a critical Trump-Putin meeting, which does not yet have a date.<br \/>On Sunday, it was reported that <a href=\"\/topic\/donald-trump\">Donald Trump has <\/a>told <a href=\"\/topic\/volodymyr-zelensky\">Volodymyr Zelensky<\/a> to accept <a href=\"\/topic\/russia\">Russia<\/a>\u2019s terms or risk facing destruction in an explosive meeting in Washington DC on Friday.<br \/>Trump reportedly aside maps of the Ukrainian frontline, urging Zelensky to surrender the Donbas region to Russia, seemingly adopting points <a href=\"\/topic\/vladimir-putin\">Vladimir Putin<\/a> made to Trump in their call the day before.<br \/>Zelensky was said to bring Trump back to endorsing a freeze of the current front lines.<br \/>Putting UK boots on the ground after a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/ukraine\">Ukraine<\/a> peace deal would cost \u201cwell over \u00a3100 million\u201d, the defence secretary has said.<br \/>That cost would cover an entry package including the initial deployment of troops and aircraft and is a separate cost to the \u00a34.5 billion in military aid allocated to Ukraine, it is understood.<br \/>During a speech in London, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/john-healey\">John Healey<\/a> said the UK has been planning in detail along with its coalition of the willing partners over the last six months.<br \/>He said: \u201cPeace is possible, and if President Trump can broker a peace, then we will be ready to help secure that peace for the long term.<br \/>\u201cThat requires us to invest and prepare our forces to be ready to deploy.<br \/> Volodymyr Zelensky has referred to his meeting with Donald Trump as a positive development despite him not getting an affirmative response on the supply of Tomahawk missiles.<br \/>\u201cWe share President Trump\u2019s positive outlook if it leads to the end of the war,\u201d Zelensky said.<br \/>\u201cAfter many rounds of discussion over more than two hours with him and his team, his message, in my view, is positive \u2013 that we stand where we stand on the line of contact, provided all sides understand what is meant,\u201d he said in comments to the media on Sunday.<br \/>The Ukrainian president was speaking before it emerged that Trump asked Zelensky to give up territory during their meeting.<br \/>\u201cIn my opinion, he does not want an escalation with the Russians until he meets with them,\u201d Zelensky said in his remarks about the meeting. <br \/>European troops are \u201cready to deploy\u201d to Ukraine in the coming weeks if Vladimir Putin agrees to a ceasefire, defence secretary John Healey said.<br \/>\u201cIf President Trump can broker a peace then we will be ready to help secure that peace,\u201d Healey said, answering a question on if troops could be deployed if a deal is reached in the next two weeks.<br \/>However, Ukrainians must be the &#8220;people who will decide how and what&#8221; is negotiated in any peace talks, he said.<br \/>A Ukrainian drone attack has hit one of the world\u2019s largest gas plants, the Orenburg in Russia, impacting neighbouring country\u2019s Kazakhstan production in the process.<br \/>The Orenburg was forced to halt its intake of gas from Kazakstan, according to the Kazakhstan\u2019s energy ministry report on Sunday.<br \/>Production at Karachaganak oil and gas has been reduced by 25 to 30 per cent (down to between 25,000 and 28,000 metric tons) as a result , industry sources told Reuters on Monday.<br \/>Ukraine claimed responsibility for the gas plant attack, which took place approximately 1,700km east of the Russian border and at an oil refinery in the Samara region.<br \/>Kyiv has increased its attacks on Russian energy facilities since August in attempt to impede fuel supplies and funding in Moscow.<br \/>Orenburg might resume some gas intake from Karachaganak on Monday, sources said, but they declined to comment on when the supply levels would be restored to the normal level of 35,000-35,500.<br \/>Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has labelled his meeting with Donald Trump last Sunday a \u201csuccess\u201d making progress on new air defence systems, despite reports that Trump insulted him at The White House.<br \/>The meeting ended with Trump calling for a ceasefire with forces in place.<br \/>Zelensky on Monday described Trump\u2019s message as \u201cpositive\u201d.<br \/>Three sources confirmed that Trump\u2019s meeting with Zelensky was tense and involved repeated profanities.<br \/>&#8220;It was pretty bad,&#8221; one of the sources said of the meeting. &#8220;The message was, &#8216;Your country will freeze, and your country will be destroyed'&#8221; if Ukraine doesn&#8217;t make a deal with Russia.<br \/>Previously Trump has said Ukraine must give up territory to make peace, but seems to have recently shifted his opinion. Last month he characterised Russia as a &#8220;paper tiger&#8221; and said Ukraine could potentially win back all its land.<br \/>Donald Trump said the idea of a Putin-Trump rail tunnel linking the US and Russia was \u201cinteresting\u201d after it was floated by a Russian envoy late on Thursday night.<br \/>But when asked about it in Washington on Friday, Zelensky said &#8220;I&#8217;m not happy with this idea,&#8221; prompting laughter from the US side.<br \/>The idea envisions a rail tunnel built under the Bering Strait, connecting the two countries, and allowing for joint exploration of natural resources.<br \/>Putin\u2019s investment envoy, Kirill Dmitriev, suggested the idea after Trump\u2019s call with Putin on Thursday.<br \/>&#8220;Imagine connecting the US and Russia, the Americas and the Afro-Eurasia with the Putin-Trump Tunnel &#8211; a 70-mile link symbolising unity,\u201d he posted on X.<br \/>He suggested the project could be taken on by Elon Musk\u2019s Boring Company, at a cost of $8bn (\u00a36bn).<br \/>Defence minister, John Healey will announce on Monday that Britain is drafting new powers which will allow troops to shoot down unidentified drones above military bases, following a growing threat posed by Russia.<br \/>&#8220;Last month, we saw 19 drones cross the Polish border. Days later, Russian jets violated Estonia&#8217;s airspace, while at the same time, Russia mounted a concerted campaign to subvert Moldova&#8217;s election,&#8221; Healey will say, according to an excerpt of his speech shared with Reuters.<br \/>&#8220;As we speak, we are developing new powers \u2013 to be put into law through our Armed Forces Bill \u2013 to shoot down unidentified drones over UK military sites,&#8221; he will tell defence officials.<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/ukraine\">Ukraine<\/a> cannot win its war with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/russia\">Russia<\/a> and should negotiate peace terms with the Kremlin, according to Britain\u2019s most senior army officer.<br \/>Field Marshal Lord Richards said Kyiv will not be able to drive <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/vladimir-putin\">Vladimir Putin<\/a>\u2019s soldiers out of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/ukraine\">Ukraine<\/a> without the help of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/nato\">Nato<\/a> forces &#8211; who won\u2019t get involved on the ground.<br \/>Lord Richards, who was promoted to UK military\u2019s most senior \u201cfive star\u201d rank earlier this year and led <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/nato\">Nato<\/a> forces in during its troops surge in Afghanistan, said Ukraine\u2019s allies have failed Kyiv.<br \/>\u201cWhat we have done in the case of Ukraine is encourage Ukraine to fight, but not given them the means to win,\u2019 the former <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/chief-of-the-defence-staff\">chief of the defence staff<\/a> told <em>The Independent\u2019s<\/em> podcast <em>World of Trouble.<\/em><br \/>Belarus is looking to \u201cfind a consensus\u201d with Ukraine, after enduring diplomatic isolation for supporting Russia\u2019s invasion in February 2022.<br \/>Ivan Tertel, head of Belarus\u2019 State Security Committee, said on Sunday that the country was ready to engage in dialogue with Ukraine.<br \/>\u201cOur President works as much as possible in order to stabilize the situation in the region, and we\u2019ve managed to balance interests of the parties in this extremely complicated situation with a tendency towards escalation,&#8221; he said on Belarus One state TV.<br \/>\u201cI am convinced that only via quiet and calm negotiations, by looking for a compromise we will be able to resolve this situation\u201d.<br \/>He added that \u201ca lot depends on the Ukrainian side.\u201d<br \/>French president Emmanuel Macron has confirmed news we earlier reported that Volodymyr Zelensky was due to attend a meeting of Ukraine&#8217;s allies known as the &#8220;coalition of the willing&#8221; in London on Friday,.<br \/>&#8220;This Friday, we will have a meeting of the coalition of the willing &#8211; partly virtual and partly in-person &#8211; in London, and President Zelensky will be there,&#8221; Mr Macron said on Monday, speaking to journalists in Slovenia.<br \/>The so-called &#8220;coalition of the willing&#8221; &#8211; put together by France and Britain in February &#8211; has held talks for months at various levels to try to define plans for what they could contribute militarily for Ukraine and to deter Russia from attacking it again once there is a final truce.<br \/>Mr Zelensky on Monday painted his meeting last week with President Trump as a success that yielded progress on acquiring new air defence systems, in contrast to other reports that Trump had berated him with obscenities in the White House.<br \/>Join thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their replies<br \/><span class=\"sc-1ty8yds-0 bbjlNt\">Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged in<\/span><span class=\"sc-1ty8yds-1 SkKtY\">Please refresh your browser to be logged in<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/news.google.com\/rss\/articles\/CBMitAFBVV95cUxQSlVhM2o4TkItZWM1Wmd6dWw1bUFOZU1zaV9mT1pxZS0zYXd1LXhWVWlpSGo2Y2x4S0NreW5xUW9hLXhMc1BSbXBHNzV0UGt0VVBabjZIeHNlQmVEWTM0bnRJUzFTWml5RVN4Yks5R19jZmhCUmRNOXJZcWMxSFY3OG1qZ09nZ0hMQ3R4d1BHVmQ3Z2JuWlZYcllZQ0hiRkQ2ZS1Fekw3NU5uTnpQSVY0TFBZcks?oc=5\">source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Notifications can be managed in browser preferences.Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged inSwipe for next article Donald Trump expects Ukraine to surrender territory in any peace agreement From reproductive rights to climate change to Big Tech, The Independent [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":168827,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-168826","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-us","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/quixnet.net\/wpinstance\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/168826","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/quixnet.net\/wpinstance\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/quixnet.net\/wpinstance\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quixnet.net\/wpinstance\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quixnet.net\/wpinstance\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=168826"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/quixnet.net\/wpinstance\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/168826\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quixnet.net\/wpinstance\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/168827"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/quixnet.net\/wpinstance\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=168826"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quixnet.net\/wpinstance\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=168826"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quixnet.net\/wpinstance\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=168826"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}