{"id":136844,"date":"2025-05-10T00:39:06","date_gmt":"2025-05-10T00:39:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quixnet.net\/wpinstance\/us-china-tariffs-the-countries-are-finally-talking-but-why-now-bbc\/"},"modified":"2025-05-10T00:39:06","modified_gmt":"2025-05-10T00:39:06","slug":"us-china-tariffs-the-countries-are-finally-talking-but-why-now-bbc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quixnet.net\/wpinstance\/us-china-tariffs-the-countries-are-finally-talking-but-why-now-bbc\/","title":{"rendered":"US-China tariffs: The countries are finally talking but why now? &#8211; BBC"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The US-China trade war could be letting up, with the world&#x27;s two largest economies set to begin talks in Switzerland. <br \/>Top <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/c8rgrejkvmjo\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 bGFWdi\">trade officials from both sides will meet on Saturday<\/a> in the first high-level meeting since US President Donald Trump hit China with tariffs in January. <br \/>Beijing retaliated immediately and a tense stand-off ensued as the two countries heaped levies on each other. Those now stand at 125%, although some Chinese imports to the US face duties as high as 245%. <br \/>There have been weeks of stern, and sometimes fiery, rhetoric where each side sought to paint the other as the more desperate party. <br \/>And yet this weekend they will face each other over the negotiating table.  <br \/>So why now?<br \/>Despite multiple rounds of tit-for-tat tariffs, both sides have been sending signals that they want to break the deadlock. Except it wasn&#x27;t clear who would blink first. <br \/>&quot;Neither side wants to appear to be backing down,&quot; said Stephen Olson, senior visiting fellow at Singapore&#x27;s ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute and a former US trade negotiator. <br \/>&quot;The talks are taking place now because both countries have judged that they can move forward without appearing to have caved in to the other side.&quot;<br \/>Still, China&#x27;s foreign ministry spokesperson Lin Jian emphasised on Wednesday that &quot;the talks are being held at the request of the US&quot;.  <br \/>And the commerce ministry framed it as a favour to Washington, saying it was answering the &quot;calls of US businesses and consumers&quot;.<br \/>The Trump administration, however, claims it&#x27;s Chinese officials who &quot;want to do business very much&quot; because &quot;their economy is collapsing&quot;.<br \/>&quot;They said we initiated? Well, I think they ought to go back and study their files,&quot; Trump said at the White House on Wednesday.<br \/>But as the talks drew closer, the president struck a more diplomatic note: &quot;We can all play games. Who made the first call, who didn&#x27;t make the &#8211; it doesn&#x27;t matter,&quot; he told reporters on Thursday. &quot;It only matters what happens in that room.&quot;<br \/>The timing is also key for Beijing because it&#x27;s during Xi&#x27;s visit to Moscow. He was a guest of honour on Friday at Moscow&#x27;s Victory Day parade to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the World War Two victory over Nazi Germany. <br \/> Xi stood alongside leaders from across the Global South &#8211; a reminder to Trump&#x27;s administration that China not only has other options for trade, but it is also presenting itself as an alternative global leader.<br \/>This allows Beijing to project strength even as it heads to the negotiating table.<br \/>Trump insists that the tariffs will make America stronger, and Beijing has vowed to &quot;fight till the end&quot;- but the fact is the levies are hurting both countries. <br \/>Factory output in China has taken a hit, according to government data. Manufacturing activity in April dipped to the lowest level since December 2023. And a survey by news outlet Caixin this week showed that services activity has reached a seven-month low.<br \/>The BBC found that Chinese exporters have been reeling from the steep tariffs, with <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/c05ne2vmd3po\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 bGFWdi\">stock piling up in warehouses<\/a>, <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/cwy7jdn09lxo\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 bGFWdi\">even as they strike a defiant note and look for markets beyond the US. <\/a><br \/>&quot;I think [China] realises that a deal is better than no deal,&quot; says Bert Hofman, a professor at the East Asian Institute in National University Singapore. <br \/>&quot;So they&#x27;ve taken a pragmatic view and said, &#x27;OK, well we need to get these talks going.&#x27;&quot;<br \/>And so with the major May Day holiday in China over, officials in Beijing have decided the time is right to talk.<br \/>On the other side, the uncertainty caused by tariffs led to the US economy contracting for the first time in three years. <br \/>And industries that have long depended on Chinese-made goods are especially worried. A Los Angeles toy company owner <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/cwy7jdn09lxo\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 bGFWdi\">told the BBC<\/a> that they were &quot;looking at the total implosion of the supply chain&quot;.<br \/>Trump himself has acknowledged that US consumers <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/videos\/c62x47d4dgpo\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 bGFWdi\">will feel the sting<\/a>.<br \/>American children may &quot;have two dolls instead of 30 dolls&quot;, he said at a cabinet meeting this month, &quot;and maybe the two dolls will cost a couple bucks more than they would normally&quot;. <br \/>Trump&#x27;s approval ratings have also slid over fears of inflation and a possible recession, with more than 60% of Americans saying he was focusing too much on tariffs.<br \/>&quot;Both countries are feeling pressure to provide a bit of reassurance to increasingly nervous markets, businesses, and domestic constituencies,&quot; Mr Olson says. <br \/>&quot;A couple of days of meetings in Geneva will serve that purpose.&quot;<br \/>While the talks have been met with optimism, a deal may take a while to materialise.<br \/>The talks will mostly be about &quot;touching base&quot;, Mr Hofman said, adding that this could look like an &quot;exchange of positions&quot; and, if things go well, &quot;an agenda [will be] set for future talks&quot;.<br \/>The negotiations on the whole are expected to take months, much like what happened during Trump&#x27;s first term.<br \/>After nearly two years of tit-for-tat tariffs, the US and China signed a &quot;phase one&quot; deal in early 2020 to suspend or reduce some levies. Even then, it did not include <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/business-51130434\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 bGFWdi\">thornier issues<\/a>, such as Chinese government subsidies for key industries or a timeline for scrapping the remaining tariffs. <br \/>In fact, many of them stayed in place through Joe Biden&#x27;s presidency, and Trump&#x27;s latest tariffs add to those older levies.  <br \/>What could emerge this time is a &quot;phase one deal on steroids&quot;, Mr Olson said: that is, it would go beyond the earlier deal and try to address flashpoints. There are many, from <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/business-68669244\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 bGFWdi\">the illegal fentanyl trade which Washington wants China to crack down harder<\/a> on to Beijing&#x27;s relationship with Moscow. <br \/> But all of that is far down the line, experts warn. <br \/>&quot;The systemic frictions that bedevil the US-China trade relationship will not be solved any time soon,&quot; Mr Olson adds.<br \/>&quot;Geneva will only produce anodyne statements about &#x27;frank dialogues&#x27; and the desire to keep talking.&quot;<br \/>Her arrest followed the White House&#x27;s crackdown on what it has classified as antisemitism on US campuses.<br \/>Pope Leo XIV has expressed support for immigrants and criticism of JD Vance. Donald Trump&#x27;s supporters aren&#x27;t happy.<br \/>Newark Mayor Ras Baraka was part of a group of Democratic officials seeking to enter the facility housing detained migrants.<br \/>Reports say the first set of white South Africans could arrive in the US next week.<br \/>Born in the Windy City in 1955 to parents of Spanish and Franco-Italian descent, Prevost served as an altar boy and was ordained in 1982.<br \/>Copyright 2025 BBC. 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Top trade officials from both sides will meet on Saturday in the first high-level meeting since US President Donald Trump hit China with tariffs in January. 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